Peter Dutton you idiot you repeated the same mistake there was never anything to apologise for.
“By despising himself too much a man comes to be worthy of his own contempt.” (Amiel, 1909, p. 180)
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” ― George Orwell
The WOKE control the present and have taken control of the past changing colonialism into a monster it never was and here we are sacrificing Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
The
drive for Entitlement continues for those who will be voting for more power to get
more resources that is the simple gracious generous offer of the Voice.
Peter Dutton you idiot you repeated the same mistake there was never anything to apologise
for.
"The use of force
and violence is more commonplace and prevalent in some families, communities,
religions, cultural/ethnic groups and societies based on the views and values
about adult prerogatives with children espoused. They may also be based upon
the sociopathy of the perpetrators." Treatment of Complex Trauma Courtois/Ford 2016
This is why the removal of children from families, communities of whatever culture must continue and why the Voice will fail you have the very biology/culture ideology who are embedded in transgenerational atrophy due to internal forces impeding the knowledge expertise required for a political framework to build the required social capital for better lives, which means the required force-knowledge expertice for change does not exist within the communities themselves, they are necessarily beneficiary stakeholders but the notion they can see let alone make their way own way out of their cultural maze without outside force cutting down the hedges is self-serving hyperbole of dogma not practical solution.
“Yuendumu resident Theresa Napurrurla Ross says there is a culture
of covering up domestic and family violence in the community because ‘the mob
will come after you’.”
Theresa Napurrurla Ross is speaking out – but she’s scared., By LIAM MENDES, The Australian, FEBRUARY 10, 2023
"[...] Cape york
communities reel from gang-rape of a five-year-old boy in July and signs of a
resurgence of youth sexual violence [...] violence there forced closure
of the local school and evacuation of teaching staff [...] He highlighted the
importance of reducing sexual violence for the future of Aboriginal
communities."
'Restore axed youth sex violence plan', David
Murry, Michael Mckenna, The Australian, 31-8-2020
"What activists fail to admit is that the
No1 cause for high rates of incarceration for Aboriginal Australians is due to
violent assaults and acts intended to cause injury. And the primary victims of
these assaults are other indigenous people." Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
Showcasing
our beloved Boorowa: Word in the Street,
Boorowa News, John Snelling, JUNE 15 2020
"In 2018, she
travelled to Canberra to speak to federal politicians about the prevalence of
domestic violence in Central Australia.
She spent years campaigning in capital
cities and remote parts of the Northern Territory, where domestic violence
rates are the highest in the country.
[...]
A
post-mortem examination revealed Ms Rubuntja had suffered all her limbs being
broken, broken ribs, head injuries, fractures to her spine, punctured lungs and
abrasions to 40 per cent of her body.
[...]
The court heard Abbott had an extensive
history of violent behaviour towards women.
In 1997 he was convicted of manslaughter
for stabbing a woman in the chest, killing her, and also stabbing a second
woman.
He was sentenced to 10 years in prison.
In 2009, Abbott was sentenced to another
five years in prison for stabbing his then-partner three times.
Abbott was sentenced to 15 months'
prison for hitting his sister-in-law, who was also his partner at the time, in
2014.
Four years later, Abbott was handed a
twelve-month prison sentence for stabbing his partner and punching her in the
lip while holding a sharp piece of metal.
“There are disturbing similarities with
the earlier matters of serious domestic violence,” Justice Trevor Riley said
during sentencing on Friday."
Malcolm
Abbott pleads guilty to murdering his partner who was a prominent anti-domestic
violence campaigner, ABC, By Saskia Mabin, Fri 1 Apr 2022
"Indigenous
Australians Minister Linda Burney will use a speech on the eve of the 15th anniversary
of the Stolen Generations apology to send a message to Peter Dutton."
Voice warning: Don’t repeat apology mistake, The Australian, 12 February 2023
It is claimed many more indigenous children are having to be removed from the harmful effects of their Indigenous parents for the exact same reason children from the so called Stolen Generation were being removed in the past to prevent them from being subject to harm and thwart them from being petrified into a repeating tragedy.
There is no doubt grief has been involved, with dislocation, institutional abuse but this is not the whole story, we face the exact same problem and reason for removing Indigenous children from indigenous parental control right now. And where as our parents knew they had to send us away from our country towns, farms, friends to boarding school to improve our chances for success clearly this was also the intent of the British policy makers they as well as us face the exact same conundrum the refusal of indigenous people to accept their culture is killing their children literally as well as their potential to join if they wish the world around them.
To achieve parity means risk, means grief means breaking with a past which prevents growth into the broader world context. The same Voice keeps you locked into stasis as the elite gains status resources for themselves only if nothing changes their incentive is therefore to maintain a system of less. Be assured the power will be theirs you will get more money not to resolve but maintain you where they relieve you of the hard decisions which you must make for your family and yourself required for real change to the good, incentivising dependency rather than independence they falsely offer. For independence self-respect rises from what you do for yourself not what others do for you where you continue your dependence under a different name.
We have a situation even now indigenous peoples receive handouts above those received by non-indigenous peoples, but more does not translate to parity where even non-indigenous people are attempting to free ride on this system. This is a system which has failed to deliver positive outcomes due to its elitist nature de-incentivising out of a boss flour handout system of dependency and cultural entitlement atrophy.
Individual, family, community Social Capital required to make a better life takes time to accumulate, cannot be brought, is never freely obtained, it has to be built from-by the individual-family-community upward, with your own sacrifice of sweat and tears otherwise you will have no motivation to care for, maintain what you yourself have built. It will crumble about you. The Voice is the same Voice which has, and always will keep you in dependency, keep you less than you could be.
Australians are falsely claiming to be Aboriginal to seek benefits, historian says
The Voice is the simple dissimulation of a Biology/Culture attempting via soft power dialectic emotionalism and WOKE fabricated assumptions of Entitlement to get more for itself. More than every other citizen it will reinforce indigenous Entitlement dependence not independence.
Only one question in a Democracy one must ask, does this proposal give one group of citizens more power than every other citizen to influence policy if so No.
As Equal power to influence their Nations future no longer exists and therefore neither does a Democracy of equals.
All of us including the Australian citizens of Aboriginal ancestry migrated into this Australian continent.
There are no First no Second in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
This is the counterfactual reality of being so stupid to claim colonialism is bad. We would not have the wealthy relatively safe society without our British heritage and the OZ indigenous would still be spearing each other cutting off legs and kidney fat having a cannibal feast.
This was my Irish-English-Danish ancestors land they are buried in its earth they built this nation through their sweat and blood, I to and my children have bent our lives to continue with their legacy this is my land and no one is going to tell me it is not and I have to pay rent.
It is a condition which will never be satisfied, never enough recompensed wealth, never enough transferred power, never enough repentance. It is a WOKE Marxist postmodern supercharged victimhood which externalises locus of control and continues to do so because the new oppressive paradigm is the postmodern distorted interpretation of reality so resources flow to perpetuate negative conditions as it pays well.
Worse they insist indigenous child development cannot be viewed through a Western lens. Indigenous parents just develop their children in a different way. It is claimed more children are being removed from parents now than ever were with the so-called stolen generation whose removal were predicated upon the same fears regards the harm their present context was causing. Anyone seriously going to claim these children have been stolen as well?
WOKE Postmodernists claim the Child development paradigms is/were an imposed Western colonialist/post colonialist constructs, removal of children is/was an evil not a good seeking to protect the children from development harm.
So now those who know this to be a lie, are in a position to create policy and enforce it are prevented from doing so due to the postmodernist deviance paradigms against anyone challenging the claim Australian indigenous peoples must be left to decide what’s best for their children despite the prevalence of child predation, violence, drug use, deficits in health, education, criminality of the very young for which there can be no resolution without outside force changing the normative operation of the development system.
Indigenous children driven by postmodern dogma are being petrified into a tribal development way of life which will never close the gap. It is an unsustainable paradigm of the Marxist postmodernist noble savage whose petrification in victimhood must be maintained as evidence of their evil vs good dialectic materialism.
So, nothing changes.
Massacring their own at the same time they accuse others is pure hypocrisy.
“The place was all surrounded by bush, and hundreds of Gundagai aborigines used to camp close by. And well do I remember many of the fights in which they participated.
About the year 1850 a big battle took place just behind where the old brick mill on Morley’s Creek now stands. One morning we were awakened at daylight by piteous begging of a blackfellow to be let into our house. My husband gave him entry, and then he let a number of others in. They told us the Lachlan tribe had swooped down on them in the night and had massacred some of the Gundagai tribe. The last black fellow to come in had a long spear sticking out of his stomach-and, really, I wasn’t sorry as he was a cheeky dangerous man. Next morning ??? went to see what the damage was, and found two blacks -Motogee and Mecky, dead while a large number were wounded. A number of gins were speared. One of them Kitty, escaped by swimming Morley’s Creek carrying her two piccaninnies, and […] the ??? Ark, which stood below where […]. The marauding band also speared dogs and did other damage. They took away with them the legs of the dead blackfellows, cutting the limbs off at the thigh. They also carried away the dead men’s kidney fat.
[…] After this slaughter the Gundagai blacks thirsted for revenge. They made elaborate preparations, and, leaving their gins behind, set out to pay back the debt they owed their Lachlan enemies. After being away some days, they returned laden with trophies of war-the most prized of which were the legs and kidney fat of some of their opponents. At night they made a big fire on the Flat, and roasted the flesh of the Lachlan victims, and partook of a cannibal feast.
The blacks never murdered any white folk. I recollect the last big fight between the tribes. An old man named Billy Pemberton was walking down our main street early one morning when a mob of strange blacks accosted him with, ‘’Where blackfellow camped?’’. Billy directed them the wrong way and ran and warned the local tribe. A lot of them raced to our place for shelter. My husband was away at the time-only myself and two babies were in the house. I let a couple of blackfellows in and they got under the bed. Others planted in the outhouse; in Turnbull’s store in Lindley's yard and one got under a cask. But he forgot his dog, which started scratching outside the barrel and when the “invaders” came along the dog's antics directed their attention to the barrel and they hauled out the planted man, and I don’t think there was an inch of his body into which they did not put spears.”
Daily Advertiser (Wagga Wagga, NSW : 1911 - 1954) Sat 18 May 1912 Page 3 Sixty Years Ago.
There are no First people no Second people in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
Hyperbole misrepresenting reality and cause of inevitable tragedies which have to arise from the 1788 context transition from a stone age violent knowledge poor biology/culture to enable assimilation into a rapidly changing modernity to deliver less violence, social disfunction, better health and economic opportunities.
There was/is no State policy of attempted genocide, there was/is a continuing attempt to raise indigenous peoples from a violent knowledge deficient stone age culture to be able to deal with an ever-changing modernity. Any such transitions hold tragedy it does not equal genocide.
The continued utilisation of dialectic emotionalism simple, small, right, gracious... to justify complex, huge, wrong, cynical… assignment of unjustified rights-resources over every other citizen has gone past sickening.
No one has an inalienable right to anything, or any social state, such things are entirely dependent upon resource contingency and fellow citizens within the same socialscape determining such rights normative with the power to enforce.
To say non-indigenous citizens, must come to terms with their ancestors past behavior which is not their own nor could be in the present socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts is absurd progressive fabrication. It determines the past can be reinvented as having the same socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts as the present and therefore the present generations must be judged by the present normative rules for past ancestors behavior based upon very different socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts and more importantly a significant lack of resources to achieve transition of the ancestors themselves and the Stone age indigenous peoples without grief such a cathartic transition given the context limitations of the time necessarily brings.
To claim in hindsight it could have been different, yes it could very well be if we were able to transfer the total socialscape of the present day to the past with all its resources. Given this is impossible. How was knowledge-ethics to be transferred to prevent Indigenous people killing each other and the moral injury of watching indigenous children being subject to a development process which petrified them into a tribal Stone age existence which in no way prepared them for the rapidly changing modernity which was to engulf them?
The political nature of the times determined if it were not the British, it could have been Leopold II of Belgium, and this would be a very different story. Easy from 2022. Read below what policy would you suggest? After reading my conclusion was it was Salvation Day 26 January 1788 for Australian Citizens of Indigenous of ancestry. For what was the alternative? It was to remain as it was.
Clearly, no massacre excuses another, violence against another Biology/Culture Ideology to resolve conflict is something we must leave behind, and remove as quickly as possible any Culture Ideology informing systemic violence from our midst, but to claim the high ground for a period when your own aboriginal Biology/Culture Ideology was intensively involved in massacring Other indigenous peoples, eating them and demand non-Indigenous face their shame and relinquish their celebration day for behavior your own were, under current moral framework, shamefully systemically informing is sickening hypocrisy.
Evil happens, there is no human endeavour of consequence which does not inform negative as well as positive; actions are taken which may be regretted, based upon previous contexts and belief systems, and differences in power. The egg cannot be unscrambled trying to do so is an absurd endeavour.
As each person has a past, if you have lived long enough, which contains behavior less than a favourable reflection of their character, so it is with families, communities, institutions, and nations. Each develops myths, to enable the celebration of their achievement rather than their failures, no individual or group is immune from this. To be eternally accusatory, regretful are despondent states of little value, rubbing a culture ideologies face into a nation’s myth contradictions is not, is not going to lead to a pursuit of happiness, the opposite, terrible things happen all sides learn from it and move on.
We celebrate our beginnings or we diminish each other leading to schism, for it leads nowhere else, the conflict continues, there is never enough justice, never enough recompense, never enough transferred power. The result, responsibility for negative behavior is externalised someone else is responsible, change to ameliorate-solve the issues never occurs, in fact cannot occur.
The failure to thrive is blamed on others, aggression replaces reasoned reflection to admit you are responsible for your condition and it is you who must change and no amount of wealth draining-result failure institutional proliferation is going to resolve the problem you.
So, what happens:
"Indigenous screenwriter Nayuka Gorrie said she thought violence was “okay” in the context of the oppression of Aboriginal people and declared “let’s burn stuff”.
Minister for Communications Paul Fletcher said the investigation was “appropriate”.
“This week’s episode of Q&A on ABC television, in which some panellists used offensive language and called for or endorsed violence. has generated significant community concern,” he said."
ABC pulls Q&A episode over provocative language after launching investigation, Stephanie Bedo, news.com.au, NOVEMBER 8, 2019
To claim special status because of genocide is ridiculous in reflected history for who, which biology/culture ideology in the historical past within the temporal existent moral context has not been subject to the notion of reality expounded by the Greeks to Melian citizens "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must", or justified as the moral righteous cause, still meaning exactly the same thing, Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union campaign address (1860) reverses the phrase: "Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it". One must ask whose 'right’.
E********* @A******* Jan 14 Twitter
Replying to @******Aus
“Sorry bruz, but you clearly no nothing. My grandfathers tribe got so big because it wared with neighbouring tribes and absorbed them. The last tribal war they fought was in the 1920’s against the Bundjalung people, we still have a shield from that war with spear tip holes.”
In the context of the 1800s it is preposterous to impose twentieth century developed morals to justify diminishing democracy by imposing a louder voice, equalling more power, for one group over another, as for the constructed notion of prior ownership of a piece of land defines superior rights is absurd for it seeks to diminish the connection to a spatial environment within which all came to existence at the same time, how is it one is more connected than another, it is a spurious political constructed assumption, also it ignores the fact each of us exist in a landscape which we all pass through and life events which determines ownership ephemeral at best and non-existent at least, the notion of a greater spiritual link is an insulting and erroneous unsubstantiated notion taken as an assumption to underwrite gaining more resources and power, for I, born in the same land are to be determined less connected is a notion which bears no weight of examination.
Just because I set fire to my surroundings to clear undergrowth to have better access to food sources, can dig up grubs and yams and live off the land in part or in whole, determine spiritual creatures inhabit my surroundings as the Greeks and others in the past and present, does not assign me a special status other than a skill in alternative survival methods and a curious set of spiritual beliefs in landscape formation defying scientific reality. It is not conservation of landscape or animals for where are the large mammals when Australian Indigenous peoples arrived, was there ever a conservation plan for any plant or animal other than for survival? Its exploitation of environment to survive. Can Christians claim as their God created the world therefore engendering sole spiritual connection and sacredness of all lands as to their own divination?
Worse could have been the lot of Australian Indigenous peoples given the nature of other biology/culture ideologies past and present moving into the Australian indigenous space, yes Australian Indigenous citizens, should deem themselves fortunate they were not completely wiped out. One must reflect on the Belgium Congo, the Mongol hordes, Islam-Muslims wherever they went.
In the context of the 1800s in Australia the British were morally bounded by policy which I believe had much to do with the Australian Indigenous people’s peaceful natures regards the settlers “The blacks never murdered any white folk.”, much more prone to attack each other than European settlers. The impediment at least initially to exploit resources to the extent it excited political economic pressure to feed into the rapidly expanding industrialization in the home country; those Europeans moving into the interior were intent initially on subsistence survival not capable of enforcing any form of control of the aboriginal peoples nor of a status experienced in doing so themselves extradited from their lands to a foreign shore relying on Australian indigenous peoples for help in developing a new life particularly as things went awry.
Colonialist paradigm invention. Conflict yes, War no.
“To be classified as a war, the conflict must be widespread, intentional, and declared. It requires mobilization of personnel and fighter or soldiers moving to front positions to defend territories.”
Difference Between War and Conflict
There has never been a declaration of war “issued officially by any British or Australian government/state against the Australian indigenous peoples. There have been at the most sporadic conflict where in general at the time Australian indigenous peoples were potentially in conflict more with fellow indigenous peoples than European settlers.
Disease inevitably would arrive to decimate the Australian Indigenous peoples, be it from any of the other Nation-states moving in to assume sovereignty which was inevitable due to the distinct technological-power imbalance and moral context or from connection with Indonesian traders linked into other biology/culture ideology nation-states disease profiles.
Australian Indigenous citizens have to reflect on their own relative circumstance as we know the noble savage is non-existent it is another Western confabulation, as seen above as evidence who can justifiably deny Aboriginal life was much closer to Hobbes version of a natural state:
“In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”
Despite the inevitable transition trauma such meeting of biology/culture ideologies incur, where I ask would Australian citizens of Indigenous ancestry be compared to the opportunities of the advanced developed Australian nation which the Europeans and others laid the foundations for which Australian Indigenous citizens now seek to exploit and admonish for doing what biology/culture ideologies, even their own did and do? You have no more rights than I or anyone else other than those you and others make assumptions for which frankly are erroneous.
No Day can excuse or forget and nor should it. But no Biology/Culture Ideology - Nation, if it has existed for some time, can with any conscience determine itself devoid of the blood of Other on its hands, and demand of Other what it does not demand of itself.
There is no such thing as a noble savage who hold more connection to the land within which they were born than those who were born in the same land at the same time. Nor any status First above others in a Democracy simply because they were first through the door, residing in the same space.
A Biology/Culture Ideology–Nation invents myths about their creation which enable the Nation to celebrate its continuing existence and move forward. I ask Australian Indigenous citizens to reflect on their own sacred myths and accept the truth about themselves before they go rubbing fellow Australians sacred myths in their face.
I am not of the opinion social systems or any other system can change without external force being consistently applied until the required result is realized. Yes, one needs to interact with the internal components of the system and utilize their potential to affect positive change but this force for change will not be generated internally and nor can it due to the resistance internal to the system.
So, giving the internal social components more control for me simply embeds the problem even more. One simply has to examine Japan post war with its democratization to realise leaving oversight responsibility to the internal structures already in place would see them seek to maintain their status in the system.
So the Voice is a retrograde step for it will entrench rather than resolve gaps for the same Indigenous system paradigm remains it will always be someone else’s fault, not enough power, not enough resources which have to be taken from other citizens. It is much better if the ministries and other institutions already in existence do the job they were created for and apply consistent pressure for change ignoring postmodernists paradigms, holding Australian Indigenous citizens responsible for their condition otherwise nothing will change, not unleashing resources which will be dissipated achieving nothing but the same failure.
OZ needs a Mandela who cared less who came first who came last where everyone is sovereign. About realising OK the nature of the past was not so good but neither was it all bad.
It could not have been anything else other than it was and is everything along any human timeline outcomes are contingent on the nature of the socialscape it was and is a plethora of different biology/culture ideologies doing the best they can good and bad with the resources knowledge motivations of the specific time context.
Let’s work together as equals, no First no Second no sovereign this or that we were all born in the same time period 65000 years to one month is meaningless in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
It may not work out the way you wanted, feelings are hurt its Democracy.
Voice warning: Don’t repeat apology mistake, The Australian, 12 February 2023
It is claimed many more indigenous children are having to be removed from the harmful effects of their Indigenous parents for the exact same reason children from the so called Stolen Generation were being removed in the past to prevent them from being subject to harm and thwart them from being petrified into a repeating tragedy.
There is no doubt grief has been involved, with dislocation, institutional abuse but this is not the whole story, we face the exact same problem and reason for removing Indigenous children from indigenous parental control right now. And where as our parents knew they had to send us away from our country towns, farms, friends to boarding school to improve our chances for success clearly this was also the intent of the British policy makers they as well as us face the exact same conundrum the refusal of indigenous people to accept their culture is killing their children literally as well as their potential to join if they wish the world around them.
To achieve parity means risk, means grief means breaking with a past which prevents growth into the broader world context. The same Voice keeps you locked into stasis as the elite gains status resources for themselves only if nothing changes their incentive is therefore to maintain a system of less. Be assured the power will be theirs you will get more money not to resolve but maintain you where they relieve you of the hard decisions which you must make for your family and yourself required for real change to the good, incentivising dependency rather than independence they falsely offer. For independence self-respect rises from what you do for yourself not what others do for you where you continue your dependence under a different name.
We have a situation even now indigenous peoples receive handouts above those received by non-indigenous peoples, but more does not translate to parity where even non-indigenous people are attempting to free ride on this system. This is a system which has failed to deliver positive outcomes due to its elitist nature de-incentivising out of a boss flour handout system of dependency and cultural entitlement atrophy.
Individual, family, community Social Capital required to make a better life takes time to accumulate, cannot be brought, is never freely obtained, it has to be built from-by the individual-family-community upward, with your own sacrifice of sweat and tears otherwise you will have no motivation to care for, maintain what you yourself have built. It will crumble about you. The Voice is the same Voice which has, and always will keep you in dependency, keep you less than you could be.
Australians are falsely claiming to be Aboriginal to seek benefits, historian says
The Voice is the simple dissimulation of a Biology/Culture attempting via soft power dialectic emotionalism and WOKE fabricated assumptions of Entitlement to get more for itself. More than every other citizen it will reinforce indigenous Entitlement dependence not independence.
Only one question in a Democracy one must ask, does this proposal give one group of citizens more power than every other citizen to influence policy if so No.
As Equal power to influence their Nations future no longer exists and therefore neither does a Democracy of equals.
All of us including the Australian citizens of Aboriginal ancestry migrated into this Australian continent.
There are no First no Second in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
This is the counterfactual reality of being so stupid to claim colonialism is bad. We would not have the wealthy relatively safe society without our British heritage and the OZ indigenous would still be spearing each other cutting off legs and kidney fat having a cannibal feast.
This was my Irish-English-Danish ancestors land they are buried in its earth they built this nation through their sweat and blood, I to and my children have bent our lives to continue with their legacy this is my land and no one is going to tell me it is not and I have to pay rent.
It is a condition which will never be satisfied, never enough recompensed wealth, never enough transferred power, never enough repentance. It is a WOKE Marxist postmodern supercharged victimhood which externalises locus of control and continues to do so because the new oppressive paradigm is the postmodern distorted interpretation of reality so resources flow to perpetuate negative conditions as it pays well.
Worse they insist indigenous child development cannot be viewed through a Western lens. Indigenous parents just develop their children in a different way. It is claimed more children are being removed from parents now than ever were with the so-called stolen generation whose removal were predicated upon the same fears regards the harm their present context was causing. Anyone seriously going to claim these children have been stolen as well?
WOKE Postmodernists claim the Child development paradigms is/were an imposed Western colonialist/post colonialist constructs, removal of children is/was an evil not a good seeking to protect the children from development harm.
So now those who know this to be a lie, are in a position to create policy and enforce it are prevented from doing so due to the postmodernist deviance paradigms against anyone challenging the claim Australian indigenous peoples must be left to decide what’s best for their children despite the prevalence of child predation, violence, drug use, deficits in health, education, criminality of the very young for which there can be no resolution without outside force changing the normative operation of the development system.
Indigenous children driven by postmodern dogma are being petrified into a tribal development way of life which will never close the gap. It is an unsustainable paradigm of the Marxist postmodernist noble savage whose petrification in victimhood must be maintained as evidence of their evil vs good dialectic materialism.
So, nothing changes.
Massacring their own at the same time they accuse others is pure hypocrisy.
“The place was all surrounded by bush, and hundreds of Gundagai aborigines used to camp close by. And well do I remember many of the fights in which they participated.
About the year 1850 a big battle took place just behind where the old brick mill on Morley’s Creek now stands. One morning we were awakened at daylight by piteous begging of a blackfellow to be let into our house. My husband gave him entry, and then he let a number of others in. They told us the Lachlan tribe had swooped down on them in the night and had massacred some of the Gundagai tribe. The last black fellow to come in had a long spear sticking out of his stomach-and, really, I wasn’t sorry as he was a cheeky dangerous man. Next morning ??? went to see what the damage was, and found two blacks -Motogee and Mecky, dead while a large number were wounded. A number of gins were speared. One of them Kitty, escaped by swimming Morley’s Creek carrying her two piccaninnies, and […] the ??? Ark, which stood below where […]. The marauding band also speared dogs and did other damage. They took away with them the legs of the dead blackfellows, cutting the limbs off at the thigh. They also carried away the dead men’s kidney fat.
[…] After this slaughter the Gundagai blacks thirsted for revenge. They made elaborate preparations, and, leaving their gins behind, set out to pay back the debt they owed their Lachlan enemies. After being away some days, they returned laden with trophies of war-the most prized of which were the legs and kidney fat of some of their opponents. At night they made a big fire on the Flat, and roasted the flesh of the Lachlan victims, and partook of a cannibal feast.
The blacks never murdered any white folk. I recollect the last big fight between the tribes. An old man named Billy Pemberton was walking down our main street early one morning when a mob of strange blacks accosted him with, ‘’Where blackfellow camped?’’. Billy directed them the wrong way and ran and warned the local tribe. A lot of them raced to our place for shelter. My husband was away at the time-only myself and two babies were in the house. I let a couple of blackfellows in and they got under the bed. Others planted in the outhouse; in Turnbull’s store in Lindley's yard and one got under a cask. But he forgot his dog, which started scratching outside the barrel and when the “invaders” came along the dog's antics directed their attention to the barrel and they hauled out the planted man, and I don’t think there was an inch of his body into which they did not put spears.”
Daily Advertiser (Wagga Wagga, NSW : 1911 - 1954) Sat 18 May 1912 Page 3 Sixty Years Ago.
There are no First people no Second people in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
Hyperbole misrepresenting reality and cause of inevitable tragedies which have to arise from the 1788 context transition from a stone age violent knowledge poor biology/culture to enable assimilation into a rapidly changing modernity to deliver less violence, social disfunction, better health and economic opportunities.
There was/is no State policy of attempted genocide, there was/is a continuing attempt to raise indigenous peoples from a violent knowledge deficient stone age culture to be able to deal with an ever-changing modernity. Any such transitions hold tragedy it does not equal genocide.
The continued utilisation of dialectic emotionalism simple, small, right, gracious... to justify complex, huge, wrong, cynical… assignment of unjustified rights-resources over every other citizen has gone past sickening.
No one has an inalienable right to anything, or any social state, such things are entirely dependent upon resource contingency and fellow citizens within the same socialscape determining such rights normative with the power to enforce.
To say non-indigenous citizens, must come to terms with their ancestors past behavior which is not their own nor could be in the present socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts is absurd progressive fabrication. It determines the past can be reinvented as having the same socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts as the present and therefore the present generations must be judged by the present normative rules for past ancestors behavior based upon very different socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts and more importantly a significant lack of resources to achieve transition of the ancestors themselves and the Stone age indigenous peoples without grief such a cathartic transition given the context limitations of the time necessarily brings.
To claim in hindsight it could have been different, yes it could very well be if we were able to transfer the total socialscape of the present day to the past with all its resources. Given this is impossible. How was knowledge-ethics to be transferred to prevent Indigenous people killing each other and the moral injury of watching indigenous children being subject to a development process which petrified them into a tribal Stone age existence which in no way prepared them for the rapidly changing modernity which was to engulf them?
The political nature of the times determined if it were not the British, it could have been Leopold II of Belgium, and this would be a very different story. Easy from 2022. Read below what policy would you suggest? After reading my conclusion was it was Salvation Day 26 January 1788 for Australian Citizens of Indigenous of ancestry. For what was the alternative? It was to remain as it was.
Clearly, no massacre excuses another, violence against another Biology/Culture Ideology to resolve conflict is something we must leave behind, and remove as quickly as possible any Culture Ideology informing systemic violence from our midst, but to claim the high ground for a period when your own aboriginal Biology/Culture Ideology was intensively involved in massacring Other indigenous peoples, eating them and demand non-Indigenous face their shame and relinquish their celebration day for behavior your own were, under current moral framework, shamefully systemically informing is sickening hypocrisy.
Evil happens, there is no human endeavour of consequence which does not inform negative as well as positive; actions are taken which may be regretted, based upon previous contexts and belief systems, and differences in power. The egg cannot be unscrambled trying to do so is an absurd endeavour.
As each person has a past, if you have lived long enough, which contains behavior less than a favourable reflection of their character, so it is with families, communities, institutions, and nations. Each develops myths, to enable the celebration of their achievement rather than their failures, no individual or group is immune from this. To be eternally accusatory, regretful are despondent states of little value, rubbing a culture ideologies face into a nation’s myth contradictions is not, is not going to lead to a pursuit of happiness, the opposite, terrible things happen all sides learn from it and move on.
We celebrate our beginnings or we diminish each other leading to schism, for it leads nowhere else, the conflict continues, there is never enough justice, never enough recompense, never enough transferred power. The result, responsibility for negative behavior is externalised someone else is responsible, change to ameliorate-solve the issues never occurs, in fact cannot occur.
The failure to thrive is blamed on others, aggression replaces reasoned reflection to admit you are responsible for your condition and it is you who must change and no amount of wealth draining-result failure institutional proliferation is going to resolve the problem you.
So, what happens:
"Indigenous screenwriter Nayuka Gorrie said she thought violence was “okay” in the context of the oppression of Aboriginal people and declared “let’s burn stuff”.
Minister for Communications Paul Fletcher said the investigation was “appropriate”.
“This week’s episode of Q&A on ABC television, in which some panellists used offensive language and called for or endorsed violence. has generated significant community concern,” he said."
ABC pulls Q&A episode over provocative language after launching investigation, Stephanie Bedo, news.com.au, NOVEMBER 8, 2019
To claim special status because of genocide is ridiculous in reflected history for who, which biology/culture ideology in the historical past within the temporal existent moral context has not been subject to the notion of reality expounded by the Greeks to Melian citizens "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must", or justified as the moral righteous cause, still meaning exactly the same thing, Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union campaign address (1860) reverses the phrase: "Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it". One must ask whose 'right’.
E********* @A******* Jan 14 Twitter
Replying to @******Aus
“Sorry bruz, but you clearly no nothing. My grandfathers tribe got so big because it wared with neighbouring tribes and absorbed them. The last tribal war they fought was in the 1920’s against the Bundjalung people, we still have a shield from that war with spear tip holes.”
In the context of the 1800s it is preposterous to impose twentieth century developed morals to justify diminishing democracy by imposing a louder voice, equalling more power, for one group over another, as for the constructed notion of prior ownership of a piece of land defines superior rights is absurd for it seeks to diminish the connection to a spatial environment within which all came to existence at the same time, how is it one is more connected than another, it is a spurious political constructed assumption, also it ignores the fact each of us exist in a landscape which we all pass through and life events which determines ownership ephemeral at best and non-existent at least, the notion of a greater spiritual link is an insulting and erroneous unsubstantiated notion taken as an assumption to underwrite gaining more resources and power, for I, born in the same land are to be determined less connected is a notion which bears no weight of examination.
Just because I set fire to my surroundings to clear undergrowth to have better access to food sources, can dig up grubs and yams and live off the land in part or in whole, determine spiritual creatures inhabit my surroundings as the Greeks and others in the past and present, does not assign me a special status other than a skill in alternative survival methods and a curious set of spiritual beliefs in landscape formation defying scientific reality. It is not conservation of landscape or animals for where are the large mammals when Australian Indigenous peoples arrived, was there ever a conservation plan for any plant or animal other than for survival? Its exploitation of environment to survive. Can Christians claim as their God created the world therefore engendering sole spiritual connection and sacredness of all lands as to their own divination?
Worse could have been the lot of Australian Indigenous peoples given the nature of other biology/culture ideologies past and present moving into the Australian indigenous space, yes Australian Indigenous citizens, should deem themselves fortunate they were not completely wiped out. One must reflect on the Belgium Congo, the Mongol hordes, Islam-Muslims wherever they went.
In the context of the 1800s in Australia the British were morally bounded by policy which I believe had much to do with the Australian Indigenous people’s peaceful natures regards the settlers “The blacks never murdered any white folk.”, much more prone to attack each other than European settlers. The impediment at least initially to exploit resources to the extent it excited political economic pressure to feed into the rapidly expanding industrialization in the home country; those Europeans moving into the interior were intent initially on subsistence survival not capable of enforcing any form of control of the aboriginal peoples nor of a status experienced in doing so themselves extradited from their lands to a foreign shore relying on Australian indigenous peoples for help in developing a new life particularly as things went awry.
Colonialist paradigm invention. Conflict yes, War no.
“To be classified as a war, the conflict must be widespread, intentional, and declared. It requires mobilization of personnel and fighter or soldiers moving to front positions to defend territories.”
Difference Between War and Conflict
There has never been a declaration of war “issued officially by any British or Australian government/state against the Australian indigenous peoples. There have been at the most sporadic conflict where in general at the time Australian indigenous peoples were potentially in conflict more with fellow indigenous peoples than European settlers.
Disease inevitably would arrive to decimate the Australian Indigenous peoples, be it from any of the other Nation-states moving in to assume sovereignty which was inevitable due to the distinct technological-power imbalance and moral context or from connection with Indonesian traders linked into other biology/culture ideology nation-states disease profiles.
Australian Indigenous citizens have to reflect on their own relative circumstance as we know the noble savage is non-existent it is another Western confabulation, as seen above as evidence who can justifiably deny Aboriginal life was much closer to Hobbes version of a natural state:
“In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”
Despite the inevitable transition trauma such meeting of biology/culture ideologies incur, where I ask would Australian citizens of Indigenous ancestry be compared to the opportunities of the advanced developed Australian nation which the Europeans and others laid the foundations for which Australian Indigenous citizens now seek to exploit and admonish for doing what biology/culture ideologies, even their own did and do? You have no more rights than I or anyone else other than those you and others make assumptions for which frankly are erroneous.
No Day can excuse or forget and nor should it. But no Biology/Culture Ideology - Nation, if it has existed for some time, can with any conscience determine itself devoid of the blood of Other on its hands, and demand of Other what it does not demand of itself.
There is no such thing as a noble savage who hold more connection to the land within which they were born than those who were born in the same land at the same time. Nor any status First above others in a Democracy simply because they were first through the door, residing in the same space.
A Biology/Culture Ideology–Nation invents myths about their creation which enable the Nation to celebrate its continuing existence and move forward. I ask Australian Indigenous citizens to reflect on their own sacred myths and accept the truth about themselves before they go rubbing fellow Australians sacred myths in their face.
I am not of the opinion social systems or any other system can change without external force being consistently applied until the required result is realized. Yes, one needs to interact with the internal components of the system and utilize their potential to affect positive change but this force for change will not be generated internally and nor can it due to the resistance internal to the system.
So, giving the internal social components more control for me simply embeds the problem even more. One simply has to examine Japan post war with its democratization to realise leaving oversight responsibility to the internal structures already in place would see them seek to maintain their status in the system.
So the Voice is a retrograde step for it will entrench rather than resolve gaps for the same Indigenous system paradigm remains it will always be someone else’s fault, not enough power, not enough resources which have to be taken from other citizens. It is much better if the ministries and other institutions already in existence do the job they were created for and apply consistent pressure for change ignoring postmodernists paradigms, holding Australian Indigenous citizens responsible for their condition otherwise nothing will change, not unleashing resources which will be dissipated achieving nothing but the same failure.
OZ needs a Mandela who cared less who came first who came last where everyone is sovereign. About realising OK the nature of the past was not so good but neither was it all bad.
It could not have been anything else other than it was and is everything along any human timeline outcomes are contingent on the nature of the socialscape it was and is a plethora of different biology/culture ideologies doing the best they can good and bad with the resources knowledge motivations of the specific time context.
Let’s work together as equals, no First no Second no sovereign this or that we were all born in the same time period 65000 years to one month is meaningless in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
It may not work out the way you wanted, feelings are hurt its Democracy.
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