Massacring their own at the same time they accuse others is pure hypocrisy. Australia Day: Salvation Day 26 January 1788 or Invasion Day 26 January 1788?
“By despising himself too much a man comes to be worthy of his own contempt.” (Amiel, 1909, p. 180)
Australia Day: Salvation Day 26 January 1788 or Invasion Day 26 January 1788?
This was my Irish-English-Danish ancestors land they are buried in its earth they built this nation through their sweat and blood, I to and my children have bent our lives to continue with their legacy this is my land and no one is going to tell me it is not and I have to pay rent.
Massacring their own at the same time they accuse others is pure hypocrisy.
“Attempted genocide is not something to celebrate.
Decision from Vic Government not to hold a parade on 26 Jan is a small step in
right direction. We need holidays that bring us together as equals, not rub
salt into wounds.”
First peoples Assembly of Victoria, Twitter,
@firstpeoplesvic, 23-1-2023
There are no First people no Second people in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
Hyperbole misrepresenting reality and cause of inevitable tragedies which have to arise from the 1788 context transition from a stone age violent knowledge poor biology/culture to enable assimilation into a rapidly changing modernity to deliver less violence, social disfunction, better health and economic opportunities.
There was/is no State policy of attempted genocide, there was/is a continuing attempt to raise indigenous peoples from a violent knowledge deficient stone age culture to be able to deal with an ever-changing modernity. Any such transitions hold tragedy it does not equal genocide.
The continued utilisation of dialectic emotionalism simple, small, right, gracious... to justify complex, huge, wrong, cynical… assignment of unjustified rights-resources over every other citizen has gone past sickening.
No one has an inalienable right to anything,
or any social state, such things are entirely dependent upon resource contingency
and fellow citizens within the same socialscape determining such rights normative
with the power to enforce.
To say non-indigenous citizens have to come to terms with their ancestors past behavior
which is not their own nor could be in the present socialscape ideas, ideals and
precepts is absurd progressive fabrication. It determines the past can be reinvented
as having the same socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts as the present and therefore
the present generations must be judged by the present normative rules for past ancestors
behaviors based upon very different socialscape ideas, ideals and precepts and more
importantly a significant lack of resources to achieve transition of the ancestors
themselves and the Stoneage indigenous peoples without grief such a cathartic transition
given the context limitations of the time necessarily brings.
To claim in hindsight it could have been different, yes it could very well be if
we were able to transfer the total socialscape of the present day to the past with
all its resources. Given this is impossible. How was knowledge-ethics to be transferred
to prevent Indigenous people killing each other and the moral injury of watching
indigenous children being subject to a development process which petrified them
into a tribal Stoneage existence which in no way prepared them for the rapidly changing
modernity which was to engulf them?
The political nature of the times determined if it were not the British, it could
have been Leopold II of Belgium, and this would be a very different story. Easy
from 2022. Read below what policy would you suggest? After reading my conclusion
was it was Salvation Day 26 January 1788 for Australian Citizens of Indigenous of
ancestry. For what was the alternative? It was to remain as it was.
Salvation Day 26 January 1788 for Australian Citizens of Indigenous ancestry by
a British culture in a 1788 context trying the best they can to raise Stoneage tribe
ancestors to modernity to stop them from being speared to death maimed have legs
and kidney fat cut off for a feast.
“The place was all
surrounded by bush, and hundreds of Gundagai aborigines used to camp close by. And
well do I remember many of the fights in which they participated.
About the year 1850
a big battle took place just behind where the old brick mill on Morley’s Creek now
stands. One morning we were awakened at daylight by piteous begging of a blackfellow
to be let into our house. My husband gave him entry, and then he let a number of
others in. They told us the Lachlan tribe had swooped down on them in the night
and had massacred some of the Gundagai tribe. The last black fellow to come in had
a long spear sticking out of his stomach-and, really, I wasn’t sorry as he was a
cheeky dangerous man. Next morning ??? went to see what the damage was, and found
two blacks -Motogee and Mecky, dead while a large number were wounded. A number
of gins were speared. One of them Kitty, escaped by swimming Morley’s Creek carrying
her two piccaninnies, and […] the ??? Ark, which stood below where […]. The marauding
band also speared dogs and did other damage. They took away with them the legs of
the dead blackfellows, cutting the limbs off at the thigh. They also carried away
the dead men’s kidney fat.
[…] After this slaughter
the Gundagai blacks thirsted for revenge. They made elaborate preparations, and,
leaving their gins behind, set out to pay back the debt they owed their Lachlan
enemies. After being away some days, they returned laden with trophies of war-the
most prized of which were the legs and kidney fat of some of their opponents. At
night they made a big fire on the Flat, and roasted the flesh of the Lachlan victims,
and partook of a cannibal feast.
The blacks never
murdered any white folk. I recollect the last big fight between the tribes. An old
man named Billy Pemberton was walking down our main street early one morning when
a mob of strange blacks accosted him with, ‘’Where blackfellow camped?’’. Billy
directed them the wrong way and ran and warned the local tribe. A lot of them raced
to our place for shelter. My husband was away at the time-only myself and two babies
were in the house. I let a couple of blackfellows in and they got under the bed.
Others planted in the outhouse; in Turnbull’s store in Lindley's yard and one got
under a cask. But he forgot his dog, which started scratching outside the barrel
and when the “invaders” came along the dog's antics directed their attention to
the barrel and they hauled out the planted man, and I don’t think there was an inch
of his body into which they did not put spears.”
Daily Advertiser
(Wagga Wagga, NSW : 1911 - 1954) Sat 18 May 1912 Page 3 Sixty Years Ago.
Clearly, no massacre
excuses another, violence against another Biology/Culture Ideology to resolve conflict
is something we must leave behind, and remove as quickly as possible any Culture
Ideology informing systemic violence from our midst, but to claim the high ground
for a period when your own aboriginal Biology/Culture Ideology was intensively involved
in massacring Other indigenous peoples, eating them and demand non-Indigenous face
their shame and relinquish their celebration day for behavior your own were, under
current moral framework, shamefully systemically informing is sickening hypocrisy.
Evil happens, there
is no human endeavour of consequence which does not inform negative as well as positive;
actions are taken which may be regretted, based upon previous contexts and belief
systems, and differences in power. The egg cannot be unscrambled trying to do so
is an absurd endeavour.
As each person
has a past, if you have lived long enough, which contains behavior less than a favourable
reflection of their character, so it is with families, communities, institutions,
and nations. Each develops myths, to enable the celebration of their achievement
rather than their failures, no individual or group is immune from this. To be eternally
accusatory, regretful are despondent states of little value, rubbing a culture ideologies
face into a nation’s myth contradictions is not, is not going to lead to a pursuit
of happiness, the opposite, terrible things happen all sides learn from it and move
on.
We celebrate our
beginnings or we diminish each other leading to schism, for it leads nowhere else,
the conflict continues, there is never enough justice, never enough recompense,
never enough transferred power. The result, responsibility for negative behavior is externalised someone
else is responsible, change to ameliorate-solve the issues
never occurs, in fact cannot occur.
The failure to thrive is blamed on others, aggression replaces reasoned reflection
to admit you are responsible for your condition and it is you who must change and
no amount of wealth draining-result failure institutional proliferation is going
to resolve the problem you.
So what happens:
"Indigenous screenwriter Nayuka Gorrie said she thought violence was
“okay” in the context of the oppression of Aboriginal people and declared “let’s
burn stuff”.
Minister for Communications Paul Fletcher said the investigation was “appropriate”.
“This week’s episode of Q&A on ABC television, in which some panellists used
offensive language and called for or endorsed violence. has generated significant
community concern,” he said."
ABC pulls Q&A episode over provocative language
after launching investigation, Stephanie
Bedo, news.com.au, NOVEMBER 8, 2019
To claim special status because of genocide is
ridiculous in reflected history for who, which biology/culture ideology in the historical
past within the temporal existent moral context has not been subject to the notion
of reality expounded by the Greeks to Melian citizens "the
strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must", or justified as the moral righteous cause, still meaning exactly the same
thing, Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union campaign address (1860) reverses the phrase: "Let
us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare
to do our duty as we understand it". One must ask whose 'right’.
E********* @A******* Jan 14 Twitter
Replying to @******Aus
“Sorry bruz, but you clearly no nothing. My grandfathers tribe got so big because it wared with neighbouring tribes and absorbed them. The last tribal war they fought was in the 1920’s against the Bundjalung people, we still have a shield from that war with spear tip holes.”
“We have mentioned them in passing with the campaigns;
various reasons why these actions of terror, these atrocities were committed. It
is difficult to estimate how many people were killed or died as a result of the
Mongol campaigns, the great Mongol conquests. Numbers run up to fantastic levels,
far beyond what we suspect the population of the world was at the time. There are
comparisons, sometimes very facile comparisons, which are made literally to the
scientific genocidal extermination of populations by the Nazis or by Stalin with
the great purges and the collectivization. Again, the Mongols never practiced slaughter
quite on that level, and a term such as holocaust can be essentially belittled by
calling every massacre atrocity a holocaust. The Holocaust, in my mind, is really
quite exceptional among all atrocities.
On the other hand, we do have some potential numbers of what the destruction involved.
For instance, it has been estimated that at least 500,000 people, Russians, died
as a result of the campaigns of Batu over a course of about five years. Many of
these were killed in the sacks of Russian cities; many more probably died of exposure,
starvation, and the privations that followed after a Mongol army had swept through,
burned all the villages and fields, had turned agriculture to pasture. Again, there
are suspicions that there were very high losses of population in the Northern Chinese
areas, regions that had been under the Jin emperor, the so-called 16 prefectures;
that Genghis Khan’s campaigns that climaxed in the conquest of the Jin capitals
of Northern China in 1215 had a similar destructive level on Northern China as Batu’s
campaigns in Russia. All agree that the destruction wrought against the Islamic
cities in Transoxiana by Genghis Khan, later by Hulagu, the destruction of Baghdad,
those are colossal numbers of destruction. Hundreds of thousands were slain and
died in the aftermath of those destructive invasions.
Last but not least, we do have information on the kingdom of Hungary; that was the
campaign in 1241. After defeating the Hungarian army, Batu’s soldiers seized the
royal treasury and the seal; and the Mongols through the whole of the summer of
1241 sent out letters that resulted in the surrender of cities, and towns and huge
numbers of captives were rounded up, large numbers that are exaggerated in the medieval
chronicles. Then, in 1241, when Batu had to return to Saray and get involved in
that election of the new Great Khan, these captives were slaughtered; and again,
we get fantastic numbers of Hungarians slain in the retreat by the Mongol army.
We have a lot of anecdotal material about the destruction of cities.
Perhaps one should suffice; and that is the former capital of Muhammad Shah, near
the Aural Sea at the lower Oxus River. That capital, the city of Urgench, was put
under siege by Genghis Khan’s sons and the city was essentially leveled. The course
of the river was changed in order to undermine the walls, and as a result, the Oxus
River actually flowed into the Caspian Sea for the next couple of hundred years.
The city lost its water supply; everything was chopped down, the mulberry trees
for silk; the irrigation ditches were deliberately destroyed; and the city was turned
into a desert and ruins and was never rebuilt.”
Pax Mongolica and Cultural Exchange, The Barbarian Empires of the Steppes, Kenneth
W. Harl, Ph.D., Professor of Classical and Byzantine History, Tulane University,
2014
“Until the 1960s, approximately one million Jews lived in Iran and other
Arab countries having arrived in the region more than 2,000 years before. Nowadays,
it is estimated that only around 15,000 remain, as the majority of the Jewish population
in Muslim lands were forced to flee their homes in the years following the establishment
of the State of Israel. […]
Despite the positive influence that Jews brought to the places where they lived,
more than 850,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria,
Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, and several other Arab countries in the 20 years that
followed the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. Another major forced migration took place
from Iran in 1979–80, following the Iranian Revolution and the collapse of the shah’s
regime, adding 70,000 more Jewish refugees to this number.”
The expulsion of Jews from Arab countries and Iran
– an untold history, World Jewish Congress, 02 Feb 2021
In the context of the 1800s it is preposterous to impose twentieth century developed
morals to justify diminishing democracy by imposing a louder voice, equaling more
power, for one group over another, as for the constructed notion of prior ownership
of a piece of land defines superior rights is absurd for it seeks to diminish the
connection to a spatial environment within which all came to existence at the same
time, how is it one is more connected than another, it is a spurious political constructed
assumption, also it ignores the fact each of us exist in a landscape which we all
pass through and life events which determines ownership ephemeral at best and non-existent
at least, the notion of a greater spiritual link is an insulting and erroneous unsubstantiated
notion taken as an assumption to underwrite gaining more resources and power, for
I, born in the same land are to be determined less connected is a notion which bears
no weight of examination.
Just because I set fire to my surroundings to clear undergrowth to have better access to food sources, can dig up grubs and yams and live off the land in part or in whole, determine spiritual creatures inhabit my surroundings as the Greeks and others in the past and present, does not assign me a special status other than a skill in alternative survival methods and a curious set of spiritual beliefs in landscape formation defying scientific reality. It is not conservation of landscape or animals for where are the large mammals when Australian Indigenous peoples arrived, was there ever a conservation plan for any plant or animal other than for survival? Its exploitation of environment to survive. Can Christians claim as their God created the world therefore engendering sole spiritual connection and sacredness of all lands as to their own divination?
Worse could have been the lot of Australian Indigenous peoples given the nature
of other biology/culture ideologies past and present moving into the Australian
indigenous space, yes Australian Indigenous citizens, should deem themselves fortunate
they were not completely wiped out. One must reflect on the Belgium Congo, the Mongol
hordes, Islam-Muslims wherever they went.
In the context of the 1800s in Australia the British relative to their actions elsewhere
which caused millions to die particularly in India(a) having forced the population
to grow cotton instead of food crops were morally bounded by policy which I believe
had much to do with the Australian Indigenous peoples peaceful natures regards the
settlers “The blacks never murdered any white folk.”, much more prone to attack each other than European settlers. The impediment
at least initially to exploit resources to the extent it excited political economic
pressure to feed into the rapidly expanding industrialization in the home country;
those Europeans moving into the interior were intent initially on subsistence survival
not capable of enforcing any form of control of the aboriginal peoples nor of a
status experienced in doing so themselves extradited from their lands to a foreign
shore relying on Australian indigenous peoples for help in developing a new life
particularly as things went awry.
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(a) "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808)
How we and I have been deceived without questioning perceived source veracity into believing the colonialist version of reality the worst of my biology/culture ideology?
It appears
colonialism research is a search for support for fabrication derived from the surface
rather than the underlying reality. Is it any wonder levels of reactive aggression
to obvious distortion of reality promoted as truth to impose undeserved attacks
on the character of citizens culture ideology in the here and now.
"Accusations
that Britain drained India of resources and starved Indians to death are nothing
new in some circles, but at the moment they are being spread with religious zeal.
Al Jazeera, the media conglomerate funded by the Qatari government, has recently
joined in. But this accusation has long been disproved, and the truth is that British
rule in India mitigated famine."
Colonialism did not cause the Indian famines - History
Reclaimed
More and
more postmodernists accusation historic text are mere prejudiced novel fabrications
of those bent on creating a distorted reality to continue their oppression is plain
to see as these postmodern imperialist colonialists post-whatever 'intellectual'
elite have turned it into an art form.
More so
regards the European Australian Indigenous peoples postmodern derived historic interaction.
They have discarded traditional history as fabrications of the elite and created
their own on a grander scaled disequilibrium. The search for inequity overrides
balanced perspective to creates a Marxist evil world of the oppressed and the oppressor
a world where the defined oppressed can never be convinced it simply is not true
and they are responsible for their condition because they refuse to accept based
on a postmodern Marxist interpretation they owe rather than they are owed.
It is a
condition which will never be satisfied, never enough recompensed wealth, never
enough transferred power, never enough repentance. It is a Marxist postmodern supercharged
victimhood which externalises locus of control and continues to do so because the
new oppressive paradigm is the postmodern distorted interpretation of reality so
resources flow to perpetuate negative conditions as it pays well.
Worse they insist indigenous child development cannot be viewed through a Western
lens. Indigenous parents just develop their children in a different way. It is claimed
more children are being removed from parents now than ever were with the so-called
stolen generation whose removal were predicated upon the same fears regards the
harm their present context was causing. Anyone seriously going to claim these children
have been stolen as well?
Postmodernists claim the Child development paradigms is/were an imposed Western
colonialist/post colonialist constructs, removal of children is/was an evil not
a good seeking to protect the children from development harm.
So now those who know this to be a lie, are in a position to create policy and enforce
it are prevented from doing so due to the postmodernist deviance paradigms against
anyone challenging the claim Australian indigenous peoples must be left to decide
what’s best for their children despite the prevalence of child predation, violence,
drug use, deficits in health, education, criminality of the very young for which
there can be no resolution without outside force changing the normative operation
of the development system.
Indigenous children driven by postmodern dogma are being petrified into a tribal
development way of life which will never close the gap. It is an unsustainable paradigm
of the Marxist postmodernist noble savage whose petrification in victimhood must
be maintained as evidence of their evil vs good dialectic materialism.
So, nothing changes.
I would
contend examination of the relative per capita expenditure comparison and its trajectory
will reveal the true nature of the postmodern paradigm not as a good but as ball
and chain not only grinding to a halt the society as a whole as a new inevitable
evil is found but the 'victims' who now have no incentive to improve their condition,
as they are incentivised to remain as they are.
So much practice these Marxist
Socialist Progressives are having to weave at their own societies expense a web
of a cognitively internalised despised state within citizens against their own
biology/culture ideology. The Merkel naivety endemic in Western once Democratic
culture they have deleted prejudice and bias to impose their own inverted
version only to find we are internally defenceless having accepted terror as a
normative state, and externally as we have not learnt from history the advice
of our very own who found out the hard way,
“The lessons (WWII) here are:
(a) That once Service strengths have been allowed to run down they cannot be
restored quickly.
(b) That the restoration of Service strengths requires much more than giving
them the necessary manpower; it requires an immense and sustained effort
involving every aspect of national life.
(c) That peace cannot be brought by appeasement; that it is far better in the
long run to challenge at an early stage rather than allow an aggressor to go on
from strength to strength until the inevitable war begins with the defender at
a dangerous disadvantage.
…
If you make the deductions from your intelligence reports fit your preconceived
notions about what the enemy is or ought to be doing, you are almost bound to
be surprised.”
MIDDLE EAST 1939-43, DIRECTORATE OF MILITARY TRAINING, Military Board Army
Headquarters, Melbourne, 31/8/1959
For such history has been determined by postmodern progressives indoctrinating
in our elite education institutions as capitalist elite invention to keep the
proletariat in a delusional state. So, what do these Labor socialist progressives
do? They seek to delete access to our delusional inducing historic memory they
defundTrove. Trove is the National Library repository of “digital copies
of newspapers, Government Gazettes, maps, magazines and newsletters. Or books,
pictures, photographs, archived websites, music and interviews. Even
information about famous Australians, including copies of letters, diaries and
personal archives.”
Want to keep our historical memory intact please sign petition "Fully Fund Trove"_
“Greens’
First Nations spokeswoman Lidia Thorpe says Australia is “still at war” and
that an Indigenous voice to parliament is not the answer to ending that
conflict.” The Australian, 25-1-2023
Colonialist paradigm invention. Conflict yes, War no.
“To be
classified as a war, the conflict must be widespread, intentional, and
declared. It requires mobilization of personnel and fighter or soldiers moving
to front positions to defend territories.”
Difference
Between War and Conflict
There has never been a declaration of war “issued officially by any British or
Australian government/state against the Australian indigenous peoples. There
have been at the most sporadic conflict where in general at the time Australian
indigenous peoples were potentially in conflict more with fellow indigenous
peoples than European settlers.
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Disease inevitably would arrive to decimate the Australian Indigenous peoples, be
it from any of the other Nation-states moving in to assume sovereignty which was
inevitable due to the distinct technological-power imbalance and moral context or
from connection with Indonesian traders linked into other biology/culture ideology
nation-states disease profiles.
Australian Indigenous citizens have to reflect on their own relative circumstance
as we know the noble savage is non-existent it is another Western confabulation,
as seen above as evidence who can justifiably deny Aboriginal life was much closer
to Hobbes version of a natural state:
“In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof
is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of
the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments
of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the
face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which
is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man,
solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”
Despite the inevitable transition trauma such
meeting of biology/culture ideologies incur, where I ask would Australian citizens
of Indigenous ancestry be compared to the opportunities of the advanced developed
Australian nation which the Europeans and others laid the foundations for which
Australian Indigenous citizens now seek to exploit and admonish for doing what biology/culture
ideologies, even their own did and do? You have no more rights than I or anyone
else other than those you and others make assumptions for which frankly are erroneous.
No Day can excuse or forget and nor should it. But no Biology/Culture Ideology - Nation, if it has existed for some time,
can with any conscience determine itself devoid of the blood of Other on its hands,
and demand of Other what it does not demand of itself.
There is no such thing as a noble savage who hold more connection to the land within
which they were born than those who were born in the same land at the same time.
Nor any status First above others in a Democracy simply because they were first
through the door, residing in the same space.
A Biology/Culture Ideology–Nation invents myths about their creation which enable
the Nation to celebrate its continuing existence and move forward. I ask Australian
Indigenous citizens to reflect on their own sacred myths and accept the truth about
themselves before they go rubbing fellow Australians sacred myths in their face.
I am not of the opinion social systems or any other system can change without external force being consistently applied until the required result is realized. Yes, one needs to interact with the internal components of the system and utilize their potential to affect positive change but this force for change will not be generated internally and nor can it due to the resistance internal to the system.
So, giving the internal social components more control for me simply embeds the problem even more. One simply has to examine Japan post war with its democratization to realise leaving oversight responsibility to the internal structures already in place would see them seek to maintain their status in the system.
So the Voice is a retrograde step for it will entrench rather than resolve gaps for the same Indigenous system paradigm remains it will always be someone else’s fault, not enough power, not enough resources which have to be taken from other citizens. It is much better if the ministries and other institutions already in existence do the job they were created for and apply consistent pressure for change ignoring postmodernists paradigms, holding Australian Indigenous citizens responsible for their condition otherwise nothing will change, not unleashing resources which will be dissipated achieving nothing but the same failure.
OZ needs a Mandela who cared less who came first who came last where everyone is sovereign. About realising OK the nature of the past was not so good but neither was it all bad.
It could not have been anything else other than it was and is everything along any human timeline outcomes are contingent on the nature of the socialscape it was and is a plethora of different biology/culture ideologies doing the best they can good and bad with the resources knowledge motivations of the specific time context.
Lets work together as equals, no First no Second no sovereign this or that we were all born in the same time period 65000 years to one month is meaningless in an Equal Voice to Power Democracy.
It may not work out the way you wanted, feelings are hurt its Democracy.
"Tears water our growth."
Alas for all in time it must be an ocean of tears as the stairs are twisting, steep and far-reaching.
Hold fast, one step at a time.
No one else can take the step for you only with you.
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